Enough of this BS, Support Kickboxing.

http://liverkick.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=379:why-you-need-to-push-for-kickboxing-to-rise-in-your-home-country&catid=34:demo-content

This whole Zuffa world domination thing is getting grating. It is time to do something about a far more exciting sport, IMO.

I agree 100 dave.

I can't help but agree that some level of co-operation can really raise the profile of kick/mt.

My first thought, honestly, is if rutz and scott coker sat down at a table about having shows in the US.

Im all up for it

Well I've been saying that for the past months

gumby wrote:I agree 100 dave.

I can't help but agree that some level of co-operation can really raise the profile of kick/mt.

My first thought, honestly, is if rutz and scott coker sat down at a table about having shows in the US.

I'm gonna talk to Rutz a bit soon and see what the hell is up. I've pushed him a bit the past few months but something needs to happen soon.

Ill do what ever I can. Starting by wearing Badr Hari T shirts to UFC ppvs at the sports bar.

Hell yes, anything you can do is bad ass, you know?

I support kickboxing!

I'm with this

In my country Kickboxing already number 1. But North America

I said this to Lane, the night zuffa bought SF and Petrosyan fought.

I said our site should be vocal proponents of kickboxing. Fingers crossed, we will

Support our friend LiverKick too

I'm all for it, WAR LIVERKICK!

fuck mma its time kickboxing and muaythai rule the combat world.

lets do it, ItS SHOWTIME will b bigger than ever withing 5 years

people would eat up kickboxing in North America. its way more exciting than mma

Soy Chingon wrote:people would eat up kickboxing in North America. its way more exciting than mma

Most people boo at the ground game anyways. They'd see not only more exciting stand up, but more talented stand up fighters.

The only probelms:

1. No American Stars

2. A serious financial effort would need to be made over several years that might not pay off. To really get US Kickboxing going, you need to have several shows in a year not just a couple rinky dink tournaments in Las vegas like K-1 used to do.

3. You have to start from scratch. There is no American tradition for kickboxing to rise from. No one in American beyond combat sports die hards has any idea who someone like Don "The Dragon" Wilson is unless its from his shitty B-Movies.

Most people get their fighting fix from MMA now, even if your presenting a super high level product then all most people will ask is when your going into MMA?

Well see how successful the It's Showtime shows do over here.

CarJackinFancy wrote:The only probelms:

1. No American Stars

2. A serious financial effort would need to be made over several years that might not pay off. To really get US Kickboxing going, you need to have several shows in a year not just a couple rinky dink tournaments in Las vegas like K-1 used to do.

3. You have to start from scratch. There is no American tradition for kickboxing to rise from. No one in American beyond combat sports die hards has any idea who someone like Don "The Dragon" Wilson is unless its from his shitty B-Movies.

Most people get their fighting fix from MMA now, even if your presenting a super high level product then all most people will ask is when your going into MMA?

See, no diss intended, but this is the same boring talking points I hear over and over again.

The WKA and PKA were huge in the 70's - 80's, regular TV on ESPN until there was a mafia scandal with the WKA and the organizer ended up in prison. All of a sudden TV networks dropped it like it's hot. We were talking arenas being sold out, like bigger than UFC-level shows. From there ESPN2 picked it up for a while, but the onset of MMA and the confusion over governing bodies and talent splitting into factions for different promoters (a lot went to K-1), it tapered off.

It isn't hard to create stars, don't let people fool you on that. Most of you have probably spent money on a Frankie Edgar fight. If not you, someone you know. Think about it. Frankie Edgar. The right marketing makes anyone a star.

What killed kickboxing in the US was shitty, crooked promoters and too many weird rules.

Full Contact (above the waist), Continuous Contact (leg kicks allowed), International Rules, Muay Thai Rules, Modified Muay Thai rules, Semi-Contact, etc.

Chuck Norris tried doing the World Combat League a few years ago, but he didn't bother to get a good TV deal and used modified Full Contact rules. So, we are talking shinguards, pants, limited low kicks, team structure, each fight is 2 3 minute rounds with a TWENTY MINUTE BREAK. So fights take place within each other, it was a freaking mess.

I don't know, that was the only person who tried and he did a terrible job. All kickboxing needs is someone to spend some money, unified rules (K-1 works best) and regional talent to fill out undercards.

Love kick boxing, I started watching k-1 before anything else. One of my goals is to see k-1 live. Hopefully it lasts long enough for that to happen.

I been talking to a Miami based MMA org about hosting some Kickboxing events. Let's see what happens.

veprman wrote:Well see how successful the It's Showtime shows do over here.

a lot of success really comes down to exposure in America!

even UFC 5 years ago was nothing before it really got on TV

After last night every fuckin person on here has to start supporting kickboxing

Relakz wrote:I been talking to a Miami based MMA org about hosting some Kickboxing events. Let's see what happens.

No shit?

Email me, dave (at) liverkick . com

Relakz wrote:I been talking to a Miami based MMA org about hosting some Kickboxing events. Let's see what happens.

What org.

Kick boxing was always number one